---
base_model:
- PocketDoc/Dans-PersonalityEngine-V1.3.0-12b
- kyx0r/Neona-12B
library_name: transformers
tags:
- mergekit
- merge
- roleplaying
- RP
- Writing
- creative
- story
- fiction
- mistral
- text
- adventure
- conversational
license: cc-by-4.0
---
#
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MN-VelvetCafe-RP-12B-V2
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Thanks for the feedback — it helped fix two main issues in the previous release
- Bad preset ("Iggy's-RP-Preset")
- Apologies if you used it
- DRY sampler settings were wrong (different from what I actually tested)
- Likely caused by duplicating/renaming in SillyTavern — my mistake
- Wrong tokenizer for quants
- Accidentally used Mistral Nemo tokenizer instead of the base (Neona) one
- Caused formatting issues, especially under strong Dan's PE influence
- Fixed by: re-merging with identical SLERP config + using correct tokenizer from the start
- Then quantized (extensively tested on Q4_K_M)
- Old preset behavior (dry_multiplier=1, rep_pen=1.12, freq_pen=0.1):
- Early chat (first 10–30 messages): crisp, varied, nice emphasis formatting
- Later chat: strong degradation
- excessive **bold** + *italic quoted speech*
- repetitive dramatic patterns
- forced/unnatural prose
- eventual chaos + noticeable quality drop
- This version should feel much more consistent
- Better format stability
- Significantly less degradation in long roleplays (when using proper sampler settings)
- Hope you enjoy the update — feedback always welcome!
- Next goals
- Experiment with other merge methods
- Try adding a 3rd model to increase response variety and quality
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**Static Quants:**
https://huggingface.co/IggyLux/MN-VelvetCafe-RP-12B-V2-Q4_K_M
https://huggingface.co/IggyLux/MN-VelvetCafe-RP-12B-Q8_0-GGUF
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**About MN-VelvetCafe-RP-12B-V2**
This is my 5th merge attempt, I'm personally limited to 12B models due to 8GB VRAM
My preferred RP is focused on multi-character group chat RP (2+ characters)
**What makes this merge stand out:**
- Excellent scene/position/clothing tracking → immersive long-term RP
- Balanced, narrative-appropriate emotions (no random aggression/refusals)
- Reliable handling of author's notes & system prompts
**Goal:** Combine Dan's PE (strong character/clothes/personality consistency) with Neona (great style adaptation & instruction following) → visually detailed, consistent RP without losing emotional stability
**Big thanks to the creators — highly recommend trying both bases:**
- **Dans-PersonalityEngine-V1.3.0-12b**
- Extremely strong at natural dialogue, flowing descriptions, lively scenes
- Tuned heavily for RP & creative writing
- Minor downsides: occasional format/punctuation quirks + prefers shorter replies
- https://huggingface.co/PocketDoc/Dans-PersonalityEngine-V1.3.0-12b
- **Neona-12B**
- Very stable & adaptable (SFW slice-of-life ↔ NSFW ERP)
- No hair-trigger extremes or refusals
- Excellent system prompt / author's note obedience
- https://huggingface.co/kyx0r/Neona-12B
**Preferred SillyTavern Templates:**
- ChatML
- Mistral V3-Tekken
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- **Sampler settings included with the model as a starting point**
- File: Iggy's_RP_PresetV2.json
- https://huggingface.co/IggyLux/MN-VelvetCafe-RP-12B-V2/blob/main/Iggy's_RP_PresetV2.json
- Context: 8192 (good balance for 8GB VRAM)
- Preferred Response length: 356
- Default Response length: 512
→ I usually start at 356 and the bump it to 512 for more detail or 1024 for climactic scenes
- **Key preset values**
- Temperature: 0.8 (default)
→ Lower to 0.4–0.6 for more grounded/less creative output — experiment! (I have gone as high as 1.3)
- **My personal setup**
- Backend: KoboldCpp (GGUF loading) → https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp
- Frontend: SillyTavern (v1.16.0) → https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
Feel free to use the preset as a base, but tweak it to match your taste — everyone's RP style is different!
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**Character Cards & Roleplay Usage/Examples**
**My approach (I call this the "Iggy format" since I rarely see others do it this way):**
- I avoid putting opening messages on character cards
- I avoid example dialogue entirely — especially any that speaks for the user or introduces third parties
**Why skip these:**
- Heavy example dialogue (especially interviewer-style) can make the model:
- Introduce unwanted extra characters
- Start speaking as the interviewer
- Or even speak for your character
- Example of problematic example-dialogue style: 
**Outdated bloated formats I skip:**
- 1500–2000 token cards full of P-lists, rigid bullets, personality tables, etc.
- Example of dense P-list style: 
- Modern models read standard plain text formatting just fine — no need for over-engineered lists anymore
**How I actually start RPs in SillyTavern:**
1. Use /sys to send a narrative summary first (sets scenario before any messages)
2. Let the character send the real first message
3. If context limit pushes the /sys prompt out:
- Repurpose it into the Group Chat Scenario field
- Or condense into Author's Notes
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- 📖 https://github.com/aikohanasaki/SillyTavern-MemoryBooks/ - For keeping context low and saving older responses as Memories in a Lore Book
- 👀 https://github.com/leandrojofre/SillyTavern-Presence - For Group Chats: Using Presence lets you select what characters can see the user and char's messages.
- 🗣️ https://github.com/mattjaybe/SillyTavern-EchoChamber - New* I recently found this and thought it was pretty cool, you can have a chat comment on your RP.
- 🎯 https://github.com/Samueras/GuidedGenerations-Extension - Helps steer stubborn models, use guides to lock in scenes/details/clothing/positions and more.
This keeps immersion high and context efficient — especially for group/multi-character RP.
Years of low-VRAM local RP taught me these habits. If you hit any snags or want help troubleshooting, just ask!
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This is a merge of pre-trained language models created using [mergekit](https://github.com/cg123/mergekit).
## Merge Details
### Merge Method
This model was merged using the [SLERP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slerp) merge method.
### Models Merged
The following models were included in the merge:
* [PocketDoc/Dans-PersonalityEngine-V1.3.0-12b](https://huggingface.co/PocketDoc/Dans-PersonalityEngine-V1.3.0-12b)
* [kyx0r/Neona-12B](https://huggingface.co/kyx0r/Neona-12B)
### Configuration
The following YAML configuration was used to produce this model:
```yaml
models:
- model: kyx0r/Neona-12B
- model: PocketDoc/Dans-PersonalityEngine-V1.3.0-12b
merge_method: slerp
base_model: kyx0r/Neona-12B
parameters:
t:
- value: 0.2
- filter: self_attn
value: [0, 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 1]
- filter: mlp
value: [1, 0.8, 0.6, 0.4, 0.2, 0]
dtype: bfloat16
chat_template: "chatml"
tokenizer:
source: "base"
```