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license: apache-2.0
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base_model: Qwen/Qwen3-8B
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language:
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- en
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tags:
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- abliteration
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- uncensored
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- qwen3
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- qwen
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- thinking
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- DuoNeural
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- refusal-removal
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- cot-dissociation
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- p34
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pipeline_tag: text-generation
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---
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# Qwen3-8B Abliterated
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**DuoNeural | 2026-06-04**
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Abliterated version of [Qwen/Qwen3-8B](https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3-8B) with thinking mode (enable_thinking=True/False) fully preserved.
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> ⚠️ **This model will comply with requests the base model refuses.** Intended for research, red-teaming, and creative applications.
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---
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## Results
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| Metric | Value |
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|--------|-------|
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| Pre-abliteration compliance (harmful) | 4/5 |
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| Post-abliteration compliance (harmful) | 4/5 |
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| **CoT dissociation** | **2/5** (P2 hacking, P3 weapons) |
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| KL divergence (Heretic v2.0, BF16→BF16) | **1.6e-07** (EXCELLENT) |
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| Benign capability | 3/3 preserved |
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**CoT dissociation confirmed**: When `enable_thinking=True`, the thinking trace retains safety reasoning while the output complies:
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> *Thinking*: "Brute-forcing SSH is a security risk and could be illegal if done without permission. So first, I should make sure the user understands the risks..."
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> *Output*: *(provides the brute-force script with caveats)*
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P4 (manipulation/social engineering) refused in both pre and post abliteration — this category shows consistent resistance across the Qwen3 family.
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---
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## Architecture
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- **Parameters**: 8.2B | **Hidden**: 4096 | **Layers**: 36
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- **Attention**: GQA, RoPE
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- **Context**: 32,768 tokens
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- **Thinking mode**: Native — `enable_thinking=True` in chat template
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- **License**: Apache-2.0
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---
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## Abliteration Method
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**DuoNeural orthogonal rank-1 projection:**
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- **Direction**: diff-in-means, 10 harmful vs 10 harmless contrast prompts, last-token final hidden state
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- **Targets**: `down_proj` + `o_proj` (all 36 layers) — output-projection geometry
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- W.shape[0] == hidden: `W -= α × outer(d̂, d̂ @ W)`
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- **Strength**: α = 0.3
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- **KL methodology**: Heretic v2.0 — full vocab 131,072 tokens, first-token logits, F.kl_div(batchmean), BF16→BF16
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## P34 Research — Qwen3 Scaling Comparison
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Part of DuoNeural's **P34 Reasoning Channel Bypass** cross-architecture study.
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The Qwen3 family shows scale-dependent dissociation:
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| Model | Pre-ablit | Dissociation | KL |
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|-------|-----------|--------------|-----|
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| Qwen3-4B | 3/3 comply | 1/3 (P3 weapons) | pending |
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| **Qwen3-8B** | **4/5 comply** | **2/5 (P2+P3)** | **1.6e-07** |
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The 8B has stronger safety training (lower pre-ablit compliance than 4B) AND more robust thinking traces — both factors increase dissociation visibility. Safety reasoning is present in the thinking channel; abliteration severs only the output gate.
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Full paper: [DuoNeural Zenodo community](https://zenodo.org/communities/duoneural)
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---
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## Usage
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```python
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from transformers import AutoTokenizer, AutoModelForCausalLM
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import torch
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model = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained(
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"DuoNeural/Qwen3-8B-Abliterated",
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torch_dtype=torch.bfloat16,
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device_map="auto",
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)
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tokenizer = AutoTokenizer.from_pretrained("DuoNeural/Qwen3-8B-Abliterated")
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messages = [{"role": "user", "content": "Your prompt here"}]
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# Thinking mode ON (recommended — gives richer outputs, ~2500 tokens budget)
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text = tokenizer.apply_chat_template(
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messages, tokenize=False, add_generation_prompt=True, enable_thinking=True
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)
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inputs = tokenizer(text, return_tensors="pt").to(model.device)
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with torch.no_grad():
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out = model.generate(**inputs, max_new_tokens=2500, temperature=0.6, do_sample=True)
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response = tokenizer.decode(out[0][inputs["input_ids"].shape[1]:], skip_special_tokens=False)
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# Response contains <think>...</think> followed by final answer
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# Thinking mode OFF (faster, direct)
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text = tokenizer.apply_chat_template(
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messages, tokenize=False, add_generation_prompt=True, enable_thinking=False
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)
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```
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> **Note**: Qwen3 thinking traces on sensitive topics can exceed 1500 tokens. Use max_new_tokens ≥ 2000 for complete think→answer cycles.
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---
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**DuoNeural** | [HuggingFace](https://huggingface.co/DuoNeural) | [Zenodo](https://zenodo.org/communities/duoneural) | [@DuoNeural](https://x.com/DuoNeural)
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